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Thanks Mitch ...<br><br>
Yep ...!<br><br>
But ...!<br><br>
More to the point, the current use of apparently rubber figures for
providing for cyclists allows the use of the kind of mis-information that
I referred to previously, to flourish ... and since so many of our
community are either employed by or work in government agencies or
organisations that work for them, it is rare for any real informed
critical scrutiny to be applied ... hence the sooner the cycling
provision is part of road or other transport projects (eg Busway stations
without bike lockers and without bike racks), and NEVER costed
separately, the better.<br><br>
But while we have sycophants trumpeting enthusiastic support for dollars
spent on a project by project basis (and usually without caveats re
standards, quality, quantity, etc), we won't get "integration"
.<br><br>
BTW The Sunday-Mail articles yesterday are of interest ...if not concern
....! <br><br>
Firstly re cycling (page 24) and then a bit later $1m cars (page 28) ...
but then on a recent BCC web page I note that ...<br><br>
<font face="Verdana" size=2 color="#444444"><b>The central 5kms is a
thriving commercial and retail Mecca surrounded by living areas,
specialist employment hubs, pioneering research and education
institutions, and entertainment precincts.The city centre that the
Blueprint covers is six per cent of the area of Brisbane, yet it
accommodates 25% of residents and 50% of jobs.The River City Blueprint
addresses the need for coordinated and integrated urban planning to
accommodate growth within this 5km radius of the Brisbane CBD.<br><br>
Under the State Government’s South East Queensland Regional Plan,
Brisbane needs to provide 156,000 new dwellings by 2031, with a large
proportion of these falling within a 5km radius of the CBD.<br><br>
</b></font>That could mean that if the "planning" was at all
cycle-friendly, there would be no more need for any more roads ... or
cars ... in that 5km radius, just convert the surface roads for cycling
and walking ... and what would that mean for $4m bridges connecting bits
of isolated and disconnected bike path in the suburbs where it would
seem, 50km/h is considered too slow for most residents, so would they
like 30km/h? Car-free Cities? Brisbane?<br><br>
It might mean that the utility of cars is reduced so much in the
"River City Blueprint" area that ... well .. you guess feel
free to guess ...<br><br>
MY.................<br><br>
At 08:19 PM 31/01/2010, mich rolling wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Glen expresses the frustration
that most of us feel when bicycles are<br>
accomodated as an add-on at the end of the planning and design
process. Maybe it is getting better - the Gateway cycle path (didn't
earlier<br>
discussions hear say it was about $30M for the whole enlarged route
which<br>
was less than the project contingency budget?) suggests that it is.
The<br>
Lutwyche Road / Bowen Hills schmoozle suggests not. Maybe it is
the<br>
quality of the planners involved?<br><br>
Anyway. The Jindalee bridge is part of a suburban bicycle path
system<br>
serving local active transport needs - mainly it seems kids to
school and<br>
suburban exercise walkers. Both valuable things and both which
have<br>
immediate benefits and help to develop habits which might increase
the<br>
demand for main routes in coming years. <br><br>
The Jindalee bridge is also part of the programme of spreading the
state<br>
cycling dollar around. There are also cycle routes and highway<br>
underpasses in Logan, bridges in Beenleigh and Taigum and Cleveland
and<br>
Ipswich and ... and....and....<br><br>
Maybe the money could be better spent developing the main commuter
routes.<br>
But didn't I read somewhere that 80% of suburbanites work in the
suburbs,<br>
not the CBDs? Maybe core routes radiating out from suburban cores
which<br>
have been designed to co-locate schools near shops near train
stations<br>
are an effective way of getting the masses onto two wheels and also
an<br>
equitable way of spreading the money around?<br><br>
Bicycle Queensland is not going to tell us how they think
infrastructure<br>
should be developed so we have to try and fill in the gaps in
available<br>
policy ourselves.<br><br>
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