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color:#1F497D'>You even get cyclists and pedestrians using the wrong side of
the Green Bridge, even though there is a perfectly good and well-signed option
nearby. It’s facultative compliance with rules (“I’ll comply when I think I
should) – an entrenched cultural Brisbane trait – it’s not peds or cyclists or
motorists, but the whole bloody population – just look at motorists and red
lights for a clear example that it’s not just “us”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bikeqld-bounces@bikeqld.org.au
[mailto:bikeqld-bounces@bikeqld.org.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Lee<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 May 2009 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bikeqld@bikeqld.org.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bikeqld] Coro Drive bikepath update?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi
Michael,<br>
<br>
As of this morning (7am), it was still one way. I am actually trying to figure
out what happens if a controller on one misjudges<br>
and let cyclists enter his end when there are still cyclist coming through the
other end? Also, this morning there was at least<br>
one pedestrian who still wanted to use the temporary structure only to be told
by the controller. There are no signs <br>
telling pedestrian to use the upper footpath. <br>
<br>
I have also tried the alternative path via Southbank and UQ Lake but now that I
lived in St Lucia, I found it faster going on Coro Drive. Riding from<br>
Southbank to Annerley is OK but I feel Coro Drive a little less dangerous.
Others might disagree. <br>
<br>
One more thing, currently, a lot of pedestrians who uses the path outside the
old ABC studio regularly disobey the<br>
bike only sign. I wondered how the BCC will reinforce the bike-only path. In
fact, even on Western Freeway bikeway<br>
you still get a lot pedestrians (may I called them idiots?) who regularly
ignore the fact that these bikeways are BIKE ONLY.<br>
Is it funny that the BCC and other authorities are so keen to crack down on
cyclists but not pedestrians doing the "WRONG"<br>
thing.<br>
<br>
Anthony Lee<br>
The Doctor -- the last of the Time Lords?<br>
........-- __o <br>
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E-Mail: doctorw1963@yahoo.com.au<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael Yeates
<michael@yeatesit.biz><br>
<b>To:</b> bikeqld@bikeqld.org.au<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 May, 2009 9:09:49 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bikeqld] Coro Drive bikepath update?<br>
</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
Is the temporary Bicentennial Bikeway bikepath to Park Road still only
operating one way for cyclists?<br>
<br>
I ask because it would appear that BCC "designed" the facility quite
deliberately ... as you (should?) do when you "design" something to
be constructed.<br>
<br>
However, it was originally "designed" and intended for two way use by
cyclists AND by pedestrians.<br>
<br>
So why once the pedestrians were no longer able to use it, was it suddenly
turned into one way for cyclists?<br>
<br>
One answer appears to be the hoary old excuse "cyclists travelling too
fast ie too dangerously". Too fast? Too dangerous? For whom?<br>
<br>
So if all this is deliberate policy, there is one good outcome. It will mean
that cyclists can travel as fast as they wish on the CYCLISTS ONLY sections ...
ie once it turns from the "shared footpath" it has been allowed
(indeed was designed) to become to a CYCLISTS ONLY bikepath ...!<br>
<br>
But perhaps not?<br>
<br>
It appears there have been a sufficient number of "complaints" and/or
reports to police to justify BCC introducing the one way for cyclists. Mind you
none of the complaints are available and if details are sought, they sound
pretty sketchy.<br>
<br>
So it may be that Council is designing the "new" path width such that
it will still be substandard for the speeds at which some cyclists wish to
travel even on a CYCLISTS ONLY path.<br>
<br>
So put another way, since it seems difficult to put an enforceable speed limit
on bikepaths, what sort of facility is needed so the fastest cyclists can use bikepaths
but be considered to be doing so safely by police, Council, and the wider
community?<br>
<br>
I guess I am asking why all the initial fuss about the temporary structure ...?<br>
<br>
Does it appear or is it the case that a substantial number of cyclists no longer
use it?<br>
<br>
If so where do they/you go ?<br>
<br>
MY............................<br>
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