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Interesting discussion ...thanks Pete and Kim ...!<br><br>
What was of some interest in the CPF "ACHIEVEMENT" Awards is
the differences in types of projects/people nominated and/or awarded in
the various categories.<br><br>
One issue is whether a single project eg the KGS facility is really the
measure to judge such an award ... This is also a reason why both the
nominators and the judges/assessors should be made explicit ... so the
inevitable "biases" are at least out in the open and can help
make more sense of the decisions.<br><br>
Another issue (of particular concern to me and perhaps others) is the
apparent scarcity and/or importance/significance of "on the
road" projects that do what so long ago the Geelong Bike Plan set
out to do ... to make "<u>every</u> street (and road) a cycling
street".<br><br>
Not just one street or one bridge or a pretty good if too small bike
parking station ... so should an achievement award recipient have
"achieved" the outcomes as planned and sustained them?<br><br>
These are "achievement" awards ... and like planning, surely
achieving is being able to show a demonstrable outcome over
time?<br><br>
Otherwise achievements can include projects which are temporary eg like
the "bike racks on buses" or the $26 + millions spent on
providing the priority bus lanes on Coro Drive" and no doubt for
some, their subsequent removal also ranks as an "achievement"
worthy of an award ... but from the CPF ???<br><br>
It seems to me that it is worth noting that "cycling promotion"
presumably refers to promoting all forms and types of cycling, not just
some.<br><br>
I also found the lack of nominations from Queensland as compared to those
in categories from other states in certain categories informative ...
perhaps nobody bothered, or perhaps ..............?<br><br>
We have to be very careful of "symbolic gestures" ... and
weasel word policies ... the modern equivalents of and as effective as,
Trojan horses ...!<br>
<br>
In that category, it appears out our way that the LNP has forgotten about
cycling ... can anyone provide me with evidence to the contrary
preferably by way of scanned copiers of flyers rather than web site
references?<br><br>
One candidate out our way is campaigning south of the river for an
"upgrade of the Walter Taylor Bridge".<br><br>
Now in terms of weasel words, I wonder how many meanings are being
attributed to what "upgrade" really means for a rather historic
suspension bridge that currently acts as an excellent incentive to use
modes other than the car ... modes which incidentally already have three
VERY under-utilised bridges immediately adjacent to to the WTB?
<br><br>
And do you think the same campaign has been promoted to the north of the
WTB ...??<br><br>
It is just seems that awarding an achievement award to the Lord Mayor of
a city which has for so long had so many areas without any connectivity
and no public plans to change the situation and what appears to be a
reduction in rolling out the "yellow BIKEs" and slower speed
LATM and traffic calmed areas seems well ... a bit optimistic?<br><br>
An encouragement award perhaps? Or like the school report ... "well
done but CAN DO better" ???<br><br>
MY...........................<br><br>
At 10:46 AM 20/03/2009, kim wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Pete,<br>
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Yeah, you are right, it was a bit unfair of me to have a dig at the CPF
because Newman got an award for furthering the cause of cycling. I
apologise for that. I think I am just grumpy because I am suffering from
politician overload at the moment. With the election coming up, there is
just so much BS being tossed around. I am also very unhappy with BCC over
their handling of dozens of bicycle issues I have raised in the past.
There is little joy.<br><br>
I guess its not as much a slap in the face as John Howard's Man of Steel
and Peace award from George Bush.<br>
<br>
The positive thing, tho, is that there were plenty of good nominees all
doing real work to promote the cause of cycling and I know that there are
people within the BCC who are doing good work too.<br><br>
cheers<br><br>
kim<br><br>
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Peter Whittle wrote: <br>
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<pre>Kim
Chris has kindly posted the nominations and it would be worth looking at
these to see just what it was that CAN'T did for his award, who nominated
him etc. I for one am highly sceptical about his epiphany as a bike
lover.
I thought you were a bit unfair extrapolating from supposition about that
point, to take aim at CPF in general. I have glanced at their work in the
past and can't cite it, but I don't think they are merely sycophants and
instruments of business and consumerism with no value to the rest of us
as you imply.
Pete
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The pats on the back might sound nice, but in reality the Cycling
Promotion Fund is just a body representing business and trying to sell
more product, it is not an 'on the ground' research body weighing and
measuring the merits of bicycle infrastructure and Government spending,
it probably wouldn't matter to them who got the awards. I am a little
surprised that Newman's signing up a foreign company to fit out and run
his bike hire scheme went down so well with local businesses. I think I
would be more impressed by a 'people's vote' type of award. Perhaps we
could take a vote among ourselves of just what and who is responsible
for, the best/best value bicycle infrastructure around Brisbane of
recent times. Perhaps a category too for the biggest lemon or white
elephant project might be worthwhile to put things in perspective.
k
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