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color:#76923C'>If MR and QT gave a rat’s arse about road users other than those
in cars – they wouldn’t be using Armco and that steel cable stuff on the
highways.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calisto MT","serif";
color:#76923C'>The simple fact is that if you’re on two wheels – you don’t
rate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> bikeqld-bounces@bikeqld.org.au
[mailto:bikeqld-bounces@bikeqld.org.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>kim<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 4 February 2009 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> BikeQld<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bikeqld] Re: Armco barriers and OH&S<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Pete,<br>
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Agree with you wholeheartedly on the the barrier issue. The problem is a lot
greater on the pointy side which often faces the shared paths. I have mentioned
it directly to the Active Transport folk in BCC and even took in some photos to
show them. I used the Fig Tree Road overpass as an example as this is part of
the bikeway network joining the Cubberla Ck bikeway to the Western Freeway and
it is a narrow shared path. I got no interest or response from ATU. In fact
they have specifically said that they do not have the resources to get involved
in the "minutiae" of the cycleway designs.<br>
The Fig Tree Pocket Rd one was a bit interesting as there is a section where
some effort has been made to protect the back of the rail from a glancing
strike and I note that the new style of support posts have C sections with
rounded corners rather than the older 'U' sections with sharp corners, but are
still not capped. I am presuming this protection was retrofitted after some
complaint. I am not even sure if that is MR or BCC jurisdiction on that
particular section. I think MR are more aware of the high speed barrier risk
issues re motorcylists and bus overturns etc.<br>
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I stuck some pictures up on the Wiki here:<br>
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href="http://www.bikeqld.org.au/wiki/Kenmore_-_Fig_Tree_Pocket_Rd_-_Armco_rail_strike_risk">http://www.bikeqld.org.au/wiki/Kenmore_-_Fig_Tree_Pocket_Rd_-_Armco_rail_strike_risk</a><br>
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Kim<br>
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Peter Whittle wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Please
tell me your thoughts on this: One of the windmills I tilt against is Armco
barriers at the side of cycle paths. Two examples are on Brisbane Road at
Toowong on the UQ route, and at the top of Fairfield Road (actually Cornwall
St) by the Dutton Park Cemetery. The barriers have sharp, hard edges on their
poles, that would be very dangerous in the event of a fall. They would be
easily capped, but no. By way of analogy, reinforcing rod on building sites and
star posts must now be capped.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
have twice asked BCC, through councillors Abrahams and Johnston, what is their
policy on use of these barriers, and the question has twice been ignored.
Admittedly the question has been mixed with others. One response said the Armco
had to be there to protect cyclists from errant cars, which is sensible but
missing the point.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
am wondering about my next approach, whether to specifically ask the Lord Mayor
to comment on the safety of these barriers to cyclists and pedestrians and
hence on their appropriate use. Alternatively, I can approach the body
responsible for OH&S and say these are hazards for people on their way to
work and ask them to investigate and inform me.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
would be grateful for comments from sensible and knowledgeable people as
yourselves, else please give me your agreement to do this under the banner of
SWBrisBUG.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cheers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Pete</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>0434
729 855</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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