[bikeqld] Kurilpa Bridge opening Sunday 4 October

[Michael Yeates]

Thanks Ian and others ...

The lack of any info being forwarded in response to this (and the 
later emails on the same subject) seems to indicate that not many of 
"us" know what is being done ...

In my view and from a cycling (and walking and disabled access) point 
of view, surely the CBD starts on the Queen Street side of the two 
ONE WAY, multi-lane, NO-CYCLIST-facilities, 60km/h "main roads" viz 
Ann and Turbot Streets where BCC even refused to add BIKE symbols to 
the BUS LANE symbols.

But exactly how DO you get from say the Turbot Street intersection in 
the photo below to say Adelaide Street ... surely not on the footpath 
... in the CBD ... and yes, of course it is not illegal.

Anyone know if cycling through KGS is provided for in the new plans 
or are we still to be "permitted" to use the road beside the front 
entry contraflow ...?

The other question with all this is why bother with protected bike 
lanes in a 40km/h area (esp when it is highly likely to be 30km/h in 
the not too distant future when Oz governments finally understand how 
Europe is dealing with all the transport related issues) when a 
protected contra-flow is really all that is needed?

Surely not provided in order to require cyclists NOT share the roads?

Would cycling on the road and not in the bike lane be justified by 
trying to avoid the pedestrian crossings and footpath waiting areas 
... even if they are not congested or crowded?

Mmmmmmmmmmm ... >:-}

BTW, at the "new" red steps (is it red because that is where the 
former TLC building was?) there is now what appears at first glance 
to be a bike lane uphill (very sensible) in Edward Street from Ann 
Street but yet again as with most of this stuff, it suffers from 
incredible lack of design detail eg it is being used for car parking 
as it only has the white BIKE symbols so it isn't legally a bike lane 
... and it has no signs to control its use or proclaim it a BIKE LANE 
... and it ends by running into the back of legally parked cars ...

There are so many more "silly" designs being rolled out (in Brisbane) 
that sadly it seems likely someone cycling will be killed or 
seriously injured doing what the facility appears to suggest ...

MY......................

At 04:33 PM 28/09/2009, Ian Lister wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009, Michael Yeates wrote:
>>At the level of network utility and connectivity, there is also the 
>>question of how cyclists connect to and from it at the CBD end ... 
>>as that too is most unclear ... esp as George Street is one way 
>>towards (Upper) Roma Street.
>
>Not for much longer. There's a new bi-directional, protected bike 
>lane along George St between Turbot St and Herschel St:
>
>http://www.bikeqld.org.au/wiki/Image:George_Street_bike_lane_start_September_2009.jpg
>
>There was even parking removed to make space for it, and it arguably 
>connects to the new bike lanes that were marked around Roma St, 
>Turbot St, etc for the King George Square cycle centre. Not so well 
>to the Bicentennial Bikeway, though.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ian
>
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