[bikeqld] Kurilpa Bridge opening Sunday 4 October

[Michael Yeates]

Thanks very much Scott ...

As I said, "... between now and October 4 ..." ... and I plead guilty 
to not having seen it late last week ... ;-)

I can't quite figure out how to get from the bridge to say Adelaide 
Street though (maybe through the "new" KGS?)... or is it assumed that 
network connection isn't needed by cyclists including those not using 
the bridge?

Although it is too early to tell from the excellent photos (thanks 
for passing them on), I do agree with the/your observations 
especially where the conflict problems that are created by bike lanes 
at intersections are (apparently) not being addressed ... however 
they could be ... if it turns out the traffic light phasing and 
bicycle detection is done well ie to reduce or avoid cyclist conflict 
with other users.

Beware of the "better than nothing" concept as some 15 - 20 years of 
my cycling advocacy confirms that support for poor quality/quantity 
infrastructure often means waiting a very long time to get it fixed 
or replaced, and as with the current expenditure, and as commented 
elsewhere, much of it is NOT for cyclists, but for motorists and/or 
pedestrians but comes from the cyclists budget or is claimed to be 
for cyclists ... yet it is designed primarily with pedestrians and/or 
motorists in mind ... hence the choice of bike lanes is probably 
politically astute while in practice is a means to restrict cyclists 
to "their" space ... except where difficult ... and yes when it does 
get replaced, it again comes from the cycling budget.

Being thankful for small mercies has its rather obvious benefits ... 
but also comes with some much less obvious disadvantages ... some as 
pointed out ... others as old as (or older than) the problem 
created/illustrated by the gift of a Trojan Horse ...!

It will be very informative to see it after October 4 ... ie in 
normal use ... and to see how well it works ... and for whom ...!

MY..............

At 10:03 AM 28/09/2009, Scott Rowan wrote:

>There are some photos on the page below of the works at the CBD end 
>of the bridge to provide connections for the cyclists. As with all 
>these things, there are sure to be some problems but it all 
>contributes to providing a better experience for cyclists in Brisbane:
>
><http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=19411&sid=43b6a7dbee1622ed42155eb37de720cd>http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=19411&sid=43b6a7dbee1622ed42155eb37de720cd
>
>Cheers,
>
>Scott
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>2009/9/27 Michael Yeates <<mailto:michael at yeatesit.biz>michael at yeatesit.biz>
>At the level of network utility and connectivity, there is also the 
>question of how cyclists connect to and from it at the CBD end ... 
>as that too is most unclear ... esp as George Street is one way 
>towards (Upper) Roma Street.
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>As there has been many years of planning of "integrated cycling 
>networks", presumably some "magic" changes planned to occur in the 
>CBD between now and October 4 ..?
>
>Sadly it is almost 100% certain the same will be able to be said 
>when the Hale Street Bridge is complete too as it seems it was 
>planned with no useful connectivity beyond connecting to the Coro 
>Drive "Bicentennial" footpath.
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>MY...............
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