[bikeqld] Handheld radars along Bicentennial Bikeway

[Michael Yeates]

Hi Anthony and others ...

Apparently this police presence has been happening on and off for a 
week or more so why doesn't somebody stop and ask the police?

Alternatively, if you do have a "speedo", go through the radar, note 
your speed then go back and ask if they will provide you with a 
reading to check your speed. Strike up a conversation ... they may 
even be cyclists.

It is possible they are taking some measurements eg for BCC but also 
could be testing the equipment ... lots of possible could be's.

Its worth noting that while there isn't a speed limit and it is 
understood that if there was, it would not be enforceable (ie it 
would be advisory ... like the advisory speed signs along roads), the 
fact an advisory speed sign is in place eg in Southbank or on the 
Goodwill Bridge, means that in the event of a crash, there would be 
considerable onus on the cyclist/s to show if not prove they were not 
exceeding that speed or "driving" dangerously and a host of other 
subjective opinion-based offences where almost certainly the "judge 
and jury" and police would be likely to be ill-informed, if not 
biased, by taking the all-too-common view that (all) cyclists travel 
too fast, a view which continues to be promulgated implicitly if not 
explicitly.

This is one reason why the "new" Coro Drive facility seems to be 
substandard. If it is adequate ie fit for purpose, then it would be 
cyclists crashing ... including into each other.

Surely then it can't be true that pedestrians have to cross the "bike 
only path" to get to and from the "pedestrians only path" ?

Who has right of way at these crossing points? Surely not the pedestrians?

Pity about that $100m if it continues to be spent or is that 
misspent, on facilities like this?

BCC could erect advisory speed signs along Coro Drive or anywhere 
else ... as it does on the roads, eg the roads that have 60km/h but 
then have a host of advisory 50 or 40 advisory signs ... where the 
speed limit should be lowered ...!

MY..................................

At 05:06 AM 16/10/2009, Anthony Lee wrote:

>Hi Dan,
>
>I saw the radar too. A friend from work who rides said that he seen 
>them also.
>Perhaps they would like us push our bikes too :-(.
>
>Anthony Lee
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>From: Dan Callaghan <djc at djc.id.au>
>To: bikeqld at bikeqld.org.au
>Sent: Thu, 15 October, 2009 6:49:07 PM
>Subject: [bikeqld] Handheld radars along Bicentennial Bikeway
>
>Dear list,
>
>On my ride home along the Bicentennial Bikeway late this afternoon I saw a
>pair of police officers with a handheld radar gun pointed at cyclists who
>were coming outbound along the newly finished "separated" section at
>Milton. I assume I got clocked, I was doing about 28-30km/h at that point
>as it was not congested at all so I felt it was safe to keep a nice pace
>going.
>
>In the event they didn't attempt to wave me down or anything, so I'm not
>sure what they were trying to achieve with their radar. Is there even any
>legally enforceable speed limit on bike paths? (I vaguely remember seeing
>some absurd 10km/h speed limit signs, but that might have been only during
>the construction phase.) Or is there maybe some kind of "reckless cycling"
>offence which they can apply at their discretion, if they clocked someone
>doing 40km/h and thought it was too much?
>
>Has anybody else been stopped by police with radars along there? or seen
>anybody else being stopped?
>
>--
>Dan Callaghan <<mailto:djc at djc.id.au>djc at djc.id.au>
>
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