[bikeqld] St Lucia bikeway consultation

[Michael Yeates]

Hi Anthony and John ...

Anthony, where did you enter/leave at the Indooroopilly end?

Did you stay on, or get onto the path to/at its 
end in Lambert Road up past the State High School?

Or did you get on/off at Indooroopilly Road and 
not use the path(s) through Robertson Park?

Or did you use Carawa Street via the roundabout on Indooroopilly Road?

John, locals suggest about 20-50 people per day 
(ie up to 4 per daylight hour) walk with peaks 
early morning and early evening.

Less than that cycle on the path although for 
both peds and cyclists, numbers obviously vary a lot.

And yes, the big groups certainly dominate the 
local (mis)perceptions and complaints esp about shouting to each other.

But up to 1 or more cyclists a minute in the 
morning cycling peak use Carawa Street as 
individuals (ie as commuters) in the morning ... 
then split routes ... a majority use Hillside but 
a surprising number use Highland then presumably 
Hawken Drive to UQ ... and the extent to which UQ 
is no less a destination is important given the 
layout at UQ required by the BCC bridge designers

Whether this choice between Hillside or Highland 
and/or the number of cyclists has changed since 
the Schonell Bridge is an interesting question 
given it is increasingly difficult to cycle into 
and therefore through UQ (so it is a barrier) from Hawken Drive.

Individuals often can advise whether they have 
changed eg from Coro Drive shared path to 
Schonell Bridge and this forms reliable "case 
study" results especially if they also know of others who have done the same.

All feedback welcomed ...

MY........................

At 12:37 PM 7/10/2009, Anthony Lee wrote:

>Hi John,
>
>When I rode my MTB and when I was living in 
>Corinda I did it a couple of times.
>
>Anthony Lee
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>From: John Nightingale <adsliif2 at iinet.net.au>
>To: Michael Yeates <michael at yeatesit.biz>; bikeqld at bikeqld.org.au
>Sent: Wed, 7 October, 2009 9:13:33 AM
>Subject: Re: [bikeqld] St Lucia bikeway consultation
>
>Has anyone seen a bicycle on the already 
>completed section? I’ve seen a couple of 
>walkers over the time it’s been open.
>
>Presumably this pathway is all about student and 
>staff commuters to and from UQ. But the great 
>volume of cyclists are the bunch riders early 
>each morning and at other times on weekends. The 
>one way option means that counter-clockwise 
>River Riders will have a faster run along the 
>Esplanade, and then run into traffic calming on 
>Hillside Tce. Clockwise bunches will choose 
>alternatives, probably using Hawken Drive and 
>the shopping strip. That should be fun, shouldn’t it?
>
>I guess Council regards bunch riders as merely a 
>nuisance and not genuine cyclists who ride for a 
>‘serious’ purpose. But even these commuters 
>don’t seem to be using the Hillside Tce 
>path... I wonder if there is a traffic counter on it.
>
>J.
>
>
>On 7/10/09 8:35 AM, "Michael Yeates" <michael at yeatesit.biz> wrote:
>
>Then add in that Council is again "promising" to 
>install the BAZ on The Esplanade while despite 
>similar previous "promises" when Carawa Street 
>was widened some 2 years ago and as part of 
>Stage 1 of this "bikeway" along Hillside Terrace 
>(the 20 year "bike route") which Council says is 
>completed in 2008 ... where NEITHER have the BAZ 
>despite regular requests and reminders.
>
>It is also worth noting that this work is in the 
>Ward of Councillor Prentice who is well aware of 
>the issues involved (the more so now she is the 
>BCC Chair of cycling) yet still Council refuses 
>to "complete" work that was "promised" ...!
>
>
>
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