[bikeqld] Re: [BFA-Oz] Fwd: [Cmass-Sydney] SMH Today

John Harland harland.john at gmail.com
Thu Jun 25 19:08:38 CDT 2009


What are you complaining about?
Those two-way lanes look to have a lot more overtaking space than the
idiotic "Copenhagen" lanes that Bicycle Victoria and VicRoads are
foisting on Melbourne.
It even looks as if they don't have high kerbs either side, unlike the
Melbourne ones.

John
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Michael Yeates<michael at yeatesit.biz> wrote:
>
> Wow ... is this a wake up call?
>
> Why would cyclists choose to be stopped at every cross street except for a
> small window of "green bike" rather than share a wider 30km/h road as in
> much of Europe including a rapid roll-out of 20mph (=30km/h) in the UK?
>
> What happens as the volume of cyclists increases?
>
> How and where do faster cyclists overtake the slower cyclists?
>
> What happens at the traffic lights as the numbers of cyclists increases?
>
> Do the ARRs make use of this type of facility mandatory ie is it illegal to
> not use it?
>
> Sounds quite likely the "research" by way of "consultation" and submissions
> was excessively influenced either by motorists or by very inexperienced
> cyclists or do-gooders who like the idea of keeping cyclists off the road.
>
> Is this yet another reason for choosing sharing the road under conditions
> that are (and can be made) more suitable ie "safe + convenient",  for
> cycling especially in urban and suburban areas?
>
> What spatial requirements and priority at traffic lights would make this
> type of facility work?
>
> What is the design maximum capacity in cyclists per minute given the length
> of the "green BIKE" phase/s?
>
> MY...................
>
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:30:31 +1000
>> Subject: [Cmass-Sydney] SMH Today
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/kkle3o
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