[bikeqld] Redcliffe Bridge

[Michael Yeates]

Maybe Yani ... maybe ...!

But some caution needed ... these are rather fuzzy images (see 
Factsheet #5) and the descriptions appear somewhat open to interpretation ...!

Interesting too that this part of the Moreton Bay Cycleway is to have 
a "shared footpath" design that BQ, MRD and QT opposed at the recent 
Gateway Northern access "bikeway" meetings ... preferring instead to 
have an almost unusable narrow "token" pedestrians ONLY space and a 
reduced width for cyclists ONLY .... BUT without separation of the 
peds and cyclists (to allow both to "illegally" use the remaining space?

In other words, the Gateway section is apparently (but for no obvious 
reasons) NOT a full width "shared path" ... presumably based on that 
being the agreed (?) design for the Gateway Bridge.

The trick with these types of decisions is to see if the design 
engineers can show the line markings where the changes occur ... and 
not surprisingly they won't because in practice they can't. Same as 
happens on the road where Coro Drive joins North Quay inbound and on 
the nearby "bikeway" as it changes from share to separated then back 
to shared ...!

Maybe we need a "goodwill" design to be more widely used ... it works 
well enough on the bridge of that name and at the places where the 
engineers can't mark the lane changes, so why not rely on it 
generally as sharing ie "share the road" AND "share the path" ...???

MY.......................

At 04:31 PM 28/01/2009, Yani wrote:

>That looks like a great plan!
>
>Yani
>
>
>From: Richard Hockey [mailto:r.hockey at sph.uq.edu.au]
>Sent: January 28, 2009 3:08 PM
>To: akayani at aapt.net.au; bikeqld at bikeqld.org.au
>Subject: RE: [bikeqld] Redcliffe Bridge
>
> From 
> http://www.mainroads.qld.gov.au/web/publicCR.nsf/0/CE789020E651CEA74A25735D00072788?OpenDocument
>"The pedestrian and cycle path will be 4.5 metres wide and includes 
>wheelchair access. The path will be almost 5 metres away from the 
>main traffic lanes, and separated T2 lane and a traffic barrier. 
>Users will be able to the recreational fishing and viewing platform 
>viewing platforms (see artist's impressions and fact sheets for more detail)."
>
>R
>
>From: bikeqld-bounces at bikeqld.org.au 
>[mailto:bikeqld-bounces at bikeqld.org.au] On Behalf Of Yani
>Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 2:42 PM
>To: bikeqld at bikeqld.org.au
>Subject: [bikeqld] Redcliffe Bridge
>
>I cycled down to Redcliffe on Saturday.
>
>The old bridge is really starting to fall to bits. I'd guess that 
>20% of the road space in now 'roped' off. This is a shame as it's 
>been a great bonus for cyclists, walkers and fish eaters.
>
>Is there a plan to have a major shared path on the new bridge being 
>constructed?
>
>Yani
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