[bikeqld] coro drv bikeway specs....

[Norm Morwood]

Interesting and sickening Kim thanks for the effort.

I don't know the answer to your ultimate question Michael. I noticed the
course posted by PedBikeTrans and see the only bit about the presentation is
the following

 "This course has been developed by Main Roads Queensland based on the NSW
Roads and
Traffic Authority's very successful "Designing for Bicycles and Pedestrians"
course. It has been
adapted for Queensland conditions and forms part of the Main Roads' Road
Planning and Design course series."

Can't see that it will advance matters very far, but at least some of the
time will be out and about by bicycle so some participants might learn some
things for themselves. No chance you could meet up with them on the day/days
Kim?  at some appropriate point of the cycling itinerary. Shouldn't be too
hard, you seem to be all over at appropriate times and to know what is going
on..

Regards, Norm.
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On Behalf Of Michael Yeates
Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2009 9:46 AM
To: kim
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Subject: Re: [bikeqld] coro drv bikeway specs....


Mmmmmm ...

Doesn't sound too flash ... thanks for the details Kim.

I note that for just $600 Main Roads is currently offering a course 
in how to provide for pedestrians and cyclists ...

I would be more than a little concerned if it turns out the 
"lecturers" are those building the stuff we get today ... and more so 
if they import guests ... especially so if the result is more of the 
same facilities for the same or similar reasons ...!

Let's face it ... there is NO problem with defining what is required 
or how it "should" be built ... that has always been easy and 
available ... for at least 20 years and probably quite a lot longer 
.. for anyone interested or competent.

So what is it that prevents provision of proper facilities given the 
multi-million dollar budgets involved ... plus all the experts?

MY.............

At 11:21 PM 24/08/2009, kim wrote:

>I raised some design issues relating to the upgraded section with BCC; 
>in particular the use of the split face wall blocks, the clearance of 
>the rest stop on the bike side and width of the path. BCC responded 
>that everything was per the Austroads guidelines and furthermore that 
>"Bicycle Queensland has been a major stakeholder in this project and 
>continues to provide advice for future stages of the Bicentennial 
>Bikeway upgrade." BCC advises me that the finished path will provide an 
>edge line 0.5m from the split face wall, a 3.5m bike section, a 2m 
>pedestrian section and a further 0.5m shoulder on the river side. They 
>also advise that the bike rest area provides a 1m clearance from the 
>bikeway in accordance with the good book. That all had me a bit 
>confused. So I took a tape to it today.

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