[bikeqld] Bike NAZIs on Coro Drive

[Michael Fanning]

Thanks Ian,

I must have missed that, not that it makes any difference to me :)

I think it's important to determine whether this sign really has any  
legal status. It is inevitable that someone will complain about  
cyclists flouting this directive.

Mick


On 30/04/2009, at 21:36 , Ian Lister wrote:

> The sign Kim is referring to is visible in this photo:
>
> http://www.bikeqld.org.au/wiki/Image:Bicentennial_widening_outbound_approach_20090429.jpg
>
> It's a G9-58 "Cyclists Dismount" sign. MUTCD says "This sign should  
> be used where necessary to remind cyclists that they are required to  
> dismount before crossing a road on a pedestrian crossing, a  
> children's crossing or a marked pedestrian crosswalk at traffic  
> signals. The sign may also be used to warn cyclists to dismount  
> before reaching a particular place at or beyond it would be  
> hazardous to continue riding. A second sign indicating the reason  
> for the warning should, where appropriate, be mounted below this  
> sign."
>
> So although it is a black and white sign I don't believe it has any  
> regulatory value; it may be used only as a reminder of an existing  
> regulation or as an advisory warning of a hazard.
>
> This sign is similar to the older, black and white "Cyclists must  
> dismount to cross road" sign, which was removed from MUTCD some  
> years ago.
>
> Regardless of any of that, it's bizarre that the sign is at one end  
> of the walkway but not the other.
>
> Ian
>
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Michael Fanning wrote:
>> Hi Kim, I only saw yellow ones today but there might be black and  
>> white ones. Makes no difference to me because I like to show a good  
>> example to the kiddies by riding responsibly. Cyclists Dismount  
>> signs go into the same bucket as the helmet laws as far as I'm  
>> concerned. My kids are taught to ride appropriately in the presence  
>> of pedestrians. That includes riding across crossings, unless a  
>> policemanperson is watching :)
>>
>> But the last I heard, these signs were removed from the MUTCD a few  
>> years ago. Anybody else know for sure?
>>
>> Mick
>
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