[bikeqld] Bike NAZIs on Coro Drive

[Michael Fanning]

Hi Kim, I only saw yellow ones today but there might be black and  
white ones. Makes no difference to me because I like to show a good  
example to the kiddies by riding responsibly. Cyclists Dismount signs  
go into the same bucket as the helmet laws as far as I'm concerned. My  
kids are taught to ride appropriately in the presence of pedestrians.  
That includes riding across crossings, unless a policemanperson is  
watching :)

But the last I heard, these signs were removed from the MUTCD a few  
years ago. Anybody else know for sure?

Mick


On 30/04/2009, at 20:50 , kim wrote:

> Hi Mick, I didn't notice any of the yellow and black advisory  
> dismounts this time, that was certainly the case with the sewer  
> works detour tho and the Council did eventually concede that they  
> were not enforcible and that their contract controllers had no legal  
> right to enforce this when these signs were used. I only noted one  
> black and white dismount at the city end and of course the  
> assortment of paper signs. I have yet to see how the whole detour  
> looks at night too. I think the whole idea of the workers having to  
> get involved and start yelling at cyclists is wrong and a safety  
> concern in itself, that is a job for the controllers at best.
>
> Michael Fanning wrote:
>> Not sure those signs are official MUTCD ones. They are yellow so I  
>> think they only have advisory status. It's a stupid situation but I  
>> did get some mild amusement this morning when I noticed that I was  
>> the only cyclist who did not walk my bike. It was 0830 so very busy  
>> and there was no opportunity to overtake for the entire length of  
>> the scaffold. I just cycled along at walking pace. Quite pleasantly  
>> relaxing really. The workers down on the asphalt shouted at me to  
>> walk, thererby enhancing my amusement. Others at work reported the  
>> same phenomenon (shouting workers on the other side of the fence)  
>> when they rode through. On the way home there are no traffic  
>> controllers so it's about 50/50 riding or walking their bikes.  
>> Plenty of joggers were jogging.
>>
>> I wonder if the "cyclists dismount" thing is really because they  
>> know they have erected a structure which is not "Fit for Purpose".  
>> They have to cover themselves by requiring cyclists to become  
>> pedestrians.
>>
>> The extra couple of minutes added to my journey along here don't  
>> really bother me but I am concerned that there will soon be an  
>> incident or a complaint that will impose even more unnecessary  
>> restrictions. There are worse parts of my journey than this. Just  
>> after the scaffold I turn left to go through the tunnel because I  
>> am headed for 57 Coro Drive. This requires me to cross the  
>> beginning of Hale St. That really is a nightmare. Hardly anybody  
>> adheres to the 40 kph limit and very few who are turning from Coro  
>> Drive into Hale St use their indicators. The barriers erected  
>> around the site make visibility very poor and crossing here is  
>> little better than Russian Roulette. There is also a lot of  
>> pedestrian traffic and the Coro Dr footpath from Hale St inbound is  
>> very narrow, even without the barriers they have put up. This is  
>> where traffic controllers and visible policing are genuinely  
>> necessary but there's Buckley's chance of that ever happening.
>>
>> Mick
>>
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